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assume we all want to reduce our deficits and reduce the amount of debt. do we want to do that by cutting social security and medicare and taking these entitlements and the safety net and fundamentally changing it or do we want more cash from individuals and from companies and whether you do that through higher rates or tax reform or getting rid of deductions, you know, that's a debate worth having and i think one that democrats can be in a pretty decent position to win if they talk about it in the right way. >> dan gross, thanks for coming. >> thank you. >>> next, developing news this afternoon on the latest sandy aid bill before congress. a house vote is expected tonight but there's plenty of opposition and maybe for good reason. we're spinning as "the cycle" rolls on for tuesday, january 15th. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. see, over time, casc
assume we all want to reduce our deficits and reduce the amount of debt. do we want to do that by cutting social security and medicare and taking these entitlements and the safety net and fundamentally changing it or do we want more cash from individuals and from companies and whether you do that through higher rates or tax reform or getting rid of deductions, you know, that's a debate worth having and i think one that democrats can be in a pretty decent position to win if they talk about it in...
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what's amazing is that people are now more concerned with the deficit and our dysfunctional government than they are with unemployment. the first time since 2009. >>> there's a troubling new statistic from the department of defense involving u.s. service members. the number of suicides in the military surged to a record high of 349 last year. that's according to the associated press. that exceeds the 295 americans who died fighting in afghanistan in 2012. >>> the military has launched a number of new programs to improve mental health services and increase awareness of the problem which the pentagon has now labeled an epidemic. >>> there's an unlikely voice entering the obesity debate. with local governments considering measures similar to mayor bloomberg's crackdown on large sugary drinks in new york city, soda giant coca-cola now stepping into the conversation. coke has unleashed a new ad campaign that defends its record while acknowledging the company's role when it comes to america's weight problem. nbc's chris jansing with the details. ♪ ♪ teach the world to sing to perfect har
what's amazing is that people are now more concerned with the deficit and our dysfunctional government than they are with unemployment. the first time since 2009. >>> there's a troubling new statistic from the department of defense involving u.s. service members. the number of suicides in the military surged to a record high of 349 last year. that's according to the associated press. that exceeds the 295 americans who died fighting in afghanistan in 2012. >>> the military has...
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he believes the deficit is a problem and deficit reduction is a priority. when you look at the approval rate of americans on handling of the economy, it's split half and half with support for the president and 49% versus 48% disapproving. there's a little room to do a big thing. this president is a deficit hawk. >> i'm afraid ezra is right in describing what we are going to be obsessed with. there are a lot of big things left. we had inequality rising in the country for three decades. poverty going up because of the recession. it's a big problem in the country. we had the flight of manufacturing jobs until recently. there's a bit of a turn around there. it seems to me president obama's biggest priority should not be the deficit. it should be restoring shared economic growth. yes, we need to do something about the long term deficit. i think the big argument is going to be between people who want to argue that the whole deal is deficit reduction. let's spend all our time putting on our green eye shades and talking these numbers. ezra will be excellent in desc
he believes the deficit is a problem and deficit reduction is a priority. when you look at the approval rate of americans on handling of the economy, it's split half and half with support for the president and 49% versus 48% disapproving. there's a little room to do a big thing. this president is a deficit hawk. >> i'm afraid ezra is right in describing what we are going to be obsessed with. there are a lot of big things left. we had inequality rising in the country for three decades....
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we have a huge spending deficit problem. they were considering for well over a week the notion of just mint inging a trillion dollar c and calling it good. the federal reserve said that's phony. that doesn't work. and the treasury department on saturday said okay, you are right. we won't go that route. we need serious proposals from the president and it is not just the congress. it is -- we got to work together to solve the country's problems. >> let me -- let me split off debt limit here. are you willing to do the debt limit on its own without any -- president say he's not going to negotiate, are you willing to pass a clean debt limit? >> you know, i think passing a clean debt limit is problematic for the american people as well as for the congress and the country. i think that we should find common ground here to look at spending reforms for the long term to gettous a path to reducing debt and deficit. i think we should look at current spending reductions that could take place and in ways we can grow the economy. i would l
we have a huge spending deficit problem. they were considering for well over a week the notion of just mint inging a trillion dollar c and calling it good. the federal reserve said that's phony. that doesn't work. and the treasury department on saturday said okay, you are right. we won't go that route. we need serious proposals from the president and it is not just the congress. it is -- we got to work together to solve the country's problems. >> let me -- let me split off debt limit...
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term agenda we would have talked about immigration, talked about the economy, spending, budget defic deficits, never would have mentioned guns. a reminder how quickly something gets forced onto the agenda whether you like it or not. >> because events drive the presidency. presidents don't drive events. look, i think we can look into our crystal ball today and talk about immigration reform or gun control or perhaps some kind of a fiscal grand bargain, but there are, as donald rumsfeld famously put it, the unknown unknowns out there that will shape the next four years. we don't have to go too far back into history for comparison. george w. bush takes the oath in 2001, his priorities were tax cut and education reform. that was dominating the agenda and the summer of the shark, all the shark attacks in the summer of '01. >> gary condit. >> and gary condit. the world changes and bush's presidency certainly changed on 9/11. >> his biggest speech before that was on stem cell research. >> yep. >> that was his first -- >> biggest month, that's right. august. >> stick around. we'll talk about the obama
term agenda we would have talked about immigration, talked about the economy, spending, budget defic deficits, never would have mentioned guns. a reminder how quickly something gets forced onto the agenda whether you like it or not. >> because events drive the presidency. presidents don't drive events. look, i think we can look into our crystal ball today and talk about immigration reform or gun control or perhaps some kind of a fiscal grand bargain, but there are, as donald rumsfeld...
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and let me talk a little bit about the deficit implication. allegedly these guys are saying they want to try to help our debt situation. the debt held by the public is about $10 trillion. that makes the math kind of easy. if we lurch from crisis like this every couple of months, at some point our creditors, the folks who lend ution money, are going to insist on an interest rate premium. suppose it goes up 0.1%, ten basis points. that is equivalent to $10 billion more of debt obligations, and the last time we even bellied up to this debt ceiling debate according to the bipartisan policy center, it cost us about $19 billion over ten years because of the very interest rate affect i'm defining. this is a manufactured crisis mentality with the goal of disparaging government and slashing the heck out of social insurance and spending. make no mistakes about it. >> to jared's point, it does nothing to the deficit. >> it makes it worse. >> it makes it worse. >> paul ryan has never been interested in deficit reduction. if you look at the ryan -- >> hang
and let me talk a little bit about the deficit implication. allegedly these guys are saying they want to try to help our debt situation. the debt held by the public is about $10 trillion. that makes the math kind of easy. if we lurch from crisis like this every couple of months, at some point our creditors, the folks who lend ution money, are going to insist on an interest rate premium. suppose it goes up 0.1%, ten basis points. that is equivalent to $10 billion more of debt obligations, and...
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should washington adopt california's deficit reduction approach? tell us what you did and if you think that could work nationally. >> what jerry brown did was he rolled the political capital. he simply said to his democrats and to the republicans, this is what's in the best interest of the public. and the public in california bought that. he caused many democrats on the other side of the aisle to be really angry because a lot of what he did were cuts. he caused republicans, however, to be angry because he increased revenue. that's what washington needs to do. and i think barack obama is prepared to do that. >> all right. former san francisco mayor willie brown, i have to tell you, in the commercial break, my floor director said he was a big fan of yours because you're a commonsense guy. i couldn't agree more. >> thank you very much. >>> coming up next, teajah's plea to the president. >> i am very sad about the children who lost their lives in connecticut. so i thought i would write to you to stop gun violence. >> he's one of four children that wrot
should washington adopt california's deficit reduction approach? tell us what you did and if you think that could work nationally. >> what jerry brown did was he rolled the political capital. he simply said to his democrats and to the republicans, this is what's in the best interest of the public. and the public in california bought that. he caused many democrats on the other side of the aisle to be really angry because a lot of what he did were cuts. he caused republicans, however, to be...
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deficit. the president of the united states -- it is laughable that he would talk about republicans not being responsible on debt issues. when this president has been in the white house sin january 20, 2009, and he's yet to do anything significant on social security or medicare. he cut medicare. so he can start a new entitlement program. that's -- not making medicare more sol vent. he doesn't done anything to curb the cost of medical expenses which he said he was going do. he did nothing. he struck back room deals with hospitals, with special interests, and now he's saying republicans are being reckless? no, no. at some point it becomes more reckless to continue raising the debt ceiling without having democrats come forward with a budget, by the president of the united states, coming forward with a plan to save medicare, medicaid, and social security. we had erskine bowles on. he was very clear. steve ratner agrees. zeke emanuel agrees. democrats, good democrats, agree. that medicare and medic
deficit. the president of the united states -- it is laughable that he would talk about republicans not being responsible on debt issues. when this president has been in the white house sin january 20, 2009, and he's yet to do anything significant on social security or medicare. he cut medicare. so he can start a new entitlement program. that's -- not making medicare more sol vent. he doesn't done anything to curb the cost of medical expenses which he said he was going do. he did nothing. he...
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this was an open ended question at the top, economy in general at 21%, goes down to the federal budget deficit, dissatisfaction with government, unemployment, taxes, all the way at the bottom is gun. >> the web video which targets basically the president's children, who have secret service protection, as all children of presidents. over the line? >> based on this poll, he should have been apologizing for those children to breaking their piggy banks to pay for the national debt. that's what americans are concerned about. >> i'm asking you about the web video. >> because his children -- >> which children? >> children he had there on display, because his children, his own children, are well protected. joe biden opened up by saying that schools should be a sanctuary. well, he must have this confused, because the president's girls do go to a sanctuary, well-armed there, but most american kids are not protected at all. >> you don't think the president's children should be off limits? >> i think she should be protected and i think our children should be. i have seven school-aged children. i would hop
this was an open ended question at the top, economy in general at 21%, goes down to the federal budget deficit, dissatisfaction with government, unemployment, taxes, all the way at the bottom is gun. >> the web video which targets basically the president's children, who have secret service protection, as all children of presidents. over the line? >> based on this poll, he should have been apologizing for those children to breaking their piggy banks to pay for the national debt....
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things that's changed over the past seven years or so is that we're in a much different position from a deficit and debt point of view. so there's much more resistance on the republican side than there used to be. to all of the little riders and pieces of pork that are loaded into these disaster relief bills. and that's some of the changes we've seen in terms of these things being held up. an easy way to do this, and it's hard to get an agreement on this in the senate-s just to pass a clean disaster relief bill with nobody else's projects in there. having said that, republicans need to be careful. there are a number of republican house seats in new jersey and new york that could be threatened if republicans are perceived as holding up aid to sandy. and it's just not anywhere they really want to be when they're trying to focus on a debt ceiling fight or at least they should be. and i think from a political point of view and even substantively they have much bigger -- they have much bigger things to go after and try and accomplish than being perceived as callous when you have so many people in th
things that's changed over the past seven years or so is that we're in a much different position from a deficit and debt point of view. so there's much more resistance on the republican side than there used to be. to all of the little riders and pieces of pork that are loaded into these disaster relief bills. and that's some of the changes we've seen in terms of these things being held up. an easy way to do this, and it's hard to get an agreement on this in the senate-s just to pass a clean...
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social security has nothing to do with the deficit, and it ought to be dealt with as a separate issue, but it has a lot to do with settling issues in the economy, because social security is a wedge issue if you don't get it fixed. so, let's fix social security and keep it where it ought to be walled off from everything else, and then take a hard look at how the tackle the things when it comes to the medicare and medicaid. >> so there's a sense of unlinking it from the sort of time-pressed issues that are about the debt ceiling and that sort of thing, because this is not really on that topic. >> it is not on that at all and we should de-link it in all of the discussions, and i do belief that the atmosphere is there for us to do so. >> congressman clyburn, i so appreciate your taking the time and it is nice to be in washington to speak with you. >> thank you so much for being with us. you are bringing a little sunlight. i want to tell your viewers what i saw out here before i got on here. >> the dancing that i do before the show. it does happen. up next, the insiders' guide to the gun d
social security has nothing to do with the deficit, and it ought to be dealt with as a separate issue, but it has a lot to do with settling issues in the economy, because social security is a wedge issue if you don't get it fixed. so, let's fix social security and keep it where it ought to be walled off from everything else, and then take a hard look at how the tackle the things when it comes to the medicare and medicaid. >> so there's a sense of unlinking it from the sort of time-pressed...
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let's wait until people get oldest and sickest and the way we'll fix the budget is, the deficit, is when they get oldest and sickest we're going to take away their benefits. that is totally insane. >> right. >> you're talking about something like for instance raising the eligibility age. >> raising the eligibility age. >> how does the table feel about raising the eligibility age? >> no, no. >> the republicans want us to talk about the budget, the debt ceiling as if that is the only issue out there. i mean the real biggest issue in my opinion is jobs in the economy. >> yes. >> we still have to do everything we can. once we get the economy back you'll have revenue coming in and take care of a lot of the long-term shortfalls in different areas but i personally support the proposal to get rid of the debt ceiling requirement. >> yes. >> i think it is absolutely ridiculous we still have this. >> right. >> this stupid debate that they want to do three months at a time because they want to fight every three months. >> we should note dick gephardt when he was running, speaker in the past, had cre
let's wait until people get oldest and sickest and the way we'll fix the budget is, the deficit, is when they get oldest and sickest we're going to take away their benefits. that is totally insane. >> right. >> you're talking about something like for instance raising the eligibility age. >> raising the eligibility age. >> how does the table feel about raising the eligibility age? >> no, no. >> the republicans want us to talk about the budget, the debt ceiling...
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if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. america, after all, has always been a grand experiment in compromise. >> one thing i will not compromise over is whether or not congress should pay the tab for a bill they already racked up. if congress refuses to give the united states the ability to pay its bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy could be catastrophic. the last time they threatened this course of action our entire economy suffered for it. >> all right. the trajectory of the perspective of compromise. >> that's entertaining but i think a i have a little bit of minority opinion. some of it is a bit overstated. in you're preamble setting this up. to assume that when the president was delivering that speech in 2009, that he did not understand just how difficult the road ahead would be and just how much recess substance he would get from the other party. i think, understates the sophistication that this man has about pol
if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. america, after all, has always been a grand experiment in compromise. >> one thing i will not compromise over is whether or not congress should pay the tab for a bill they already racked up. if congress refuses to give the united states the ability to pay its bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy...
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the huge budget arguments about to take place, the huge deficit spending stuff, the huge we're going to face it again, you know, debt ceiling stuff, what is the republican strategy in dealing with the democrats? david. >> you know, mike, i was on capitol hill this week talking to top republicans, and i'm getting a sense and you're seeing it written about as well, that they would maybe like to step away from the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can they get this president to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexi
the huge budget arguments about to take place, the huge deficit spending stuff, the huge we're going to face it again, you know, debt ceiling stuff, what is the republican strategy in dealing with the democrats? david. >> you know, mike, i was on capitol hill this week talking to top republicans, and i'm getting a sense and you're seeing it written about as well, that they would maybe like to step away from the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can...